If I want to go 100 Miles 161 Km this is considered about a petrol 125cc coverage and do it in 2 Hours. My 2020 TC MAX Mode 2 max 50MPH if I'm using 72v 45amps for 1 Hour this equates to 3240 Watts. Ops at 50 MPH Im using approx 4320 Watts this means I need a 72v 60Amp Battery to get 50 miles and 72 x 120 Ah Battery to get me 100 Miles. Not including headlights and 12v converter + controller. +- hills, stops and wind. I now fit panniers with batteries I have seen 72v flat panel batts 30 AH each side weight approx 9kg each fit either side this leave 15 AH required I could fit under top box or get rid of the long seat and fit 30AH batt box and distribution unit to the controller from seat and panniers. I can now travel 110 Miles at 50MPH 80KPH stop at a hotel take batteries up and charge them all with 2x 10A charges whilst i have a wonderful meal with my friend change over batteries and sleep. I can then rtn on my home leg or travel on; in this case to the East coast and visit family say Hi and set up my charges whilst I take them out for a lunch changing over the batteries, having a wonderful night out and trip down memory lane. Paying the family member £5.00 for charging at which they should be happy as you have paid them twice as much but you didn't have to pay the hotel. Then return journey back to hotel and then onto Home in 2 trips. I did this trip on a Honda 125 Custom the Hotel was replaced with a petrol pump. This could be done with Hire batteries where the battery exchange station allowed you to change depleted batteries for charged ones. The commerce for this would be big but not impossible. You buy a vehicle without battery and pay a separate Hire yearly charge to hire batteries that would cover all costs involved then pay a charging fee for each exchange. All this could be done via the app so you wouldn't have to read through this each time. OK fit a 120Ah battery that's about 50Kg today or will the future be able to reduce this.
OK; great commute week, I do a small commute like a bus would do around the world in inner cities, The TC MAX was quick, small, light, and has enough to get you to work and back. I do a 8 Km 4.8 mile run to work, I work on a hill and live on a hill so 2.4Km is down hill, 2.4km is up hill and 3.2 is Flat. Down hill even in mode 3 very little percentage used makes sense long hill of 1.8Km 1-2%. Each day used a different mode mode 1 was slower, mode 2 & 3 about the same. Up hill limit 65kph 40mph + keeping up with ongoing traffic 44MPH? mode 2, 8-10% on 1.8Km Wow!. Flat ok. 21% day 1, 25% Day 2 and 26% Day 3 no charge in between. Conditions similar, breaking can't remember, speed same. This on 2 weeks of commuting, summery looks like with full battery make about 4% on 1st journey between journey 2 & 3 almost no difference. Breaking distance less than modern breaking, the other issue I had, I couldn't take the smile off my face.
Small commute great bike does the Job.
Long commute Economy 50 Miles, 80 Km max range Mode 1, 35 MPH = 1 h 25 m recharge at work, 35 mile commute 50 MPH 45 mins recharge at work. This is a great commute. Charge battery approx 4 Hours 10 Amp charger.
Guildford/Farnborough/Watford to London 40-50 MPH; Southend or Chelmsford 35 - 40 MPH required. My point is an extra 4.2 Million more people at 40 MPH could travel on SS TC Max today. 60 - 70 Ah battery could reach 20 Million people country wide at 50 MPH this is much more appealing I could do this with TC MAX as a single pillion.
Cafe run was great my next is going to be different I am going beyond my return journey limit. This test I have to do some E-mails to ensure I can get a charge from the Cafe, I don't want to rely on luck or charity I am happy to pay for my charge and that they will not be out of pocket. (English Expression).
Hi my own reply as I now know more Zap Map is the answer to my extended journeys I should now be able to travel up to 60Miles or 40 miles each way, although it will take me around 10 hours. That is OK I will only be doing it occasionally. Once more confident I will try a 200 mile journey or 400 mile round trip. So will not be bothering the forum too much from here on. Sorry about the double whammy on Christmas eve I didn't know it loaded. I found the Zap Map from the Zero website though i'm not a fan of the bike, It has a great system of charging points. Zap Map is only one, give it a go if you want to travel further and tell us about it. Sorry I only know for UK but if you have similar sites please tell us.
Every one of us is little pissed at the range 😉 thx for your post, math is cruel but also very helpful for little ebikes/mopeds like ours (modded standard TC here) ability to use fast charger would be a blessing for us.
